pr perhaps reason

I have now used the FE to change my password, thanks. And I’ve defined a new one of course. I’ve added a new task in the next bundle: login if wrong should send back a message to the user, not just freeze — helping out the user at that point will be most appreciated. If their overal experience of the app is a pleasant one, she or he will be giving us money to improve things further — and we are in a position of listening to what changes they may want to bring to make their experience even more joyful and elegant..



Whatever my complaints are, and how we have shape up with the UX — not just does it look nice — but the actual experience of pleasure, and how gentle this thing is on the mind. Like Apple Mac operating system with icons and windows and a pointer was just a lot easier on the mind than a command line.

The trick was to generate the simplest system that could offer maximum user interactivity.

Our prototype won’t manage it, we are not going to produce that mac experience because that mac experience came out of a few years of development by highly paid and expert people. The millions that cost to get it into production, was predicated on that experience — that first real hit of user experience. UX is not just the tapping or long tapping on a screen. the intuitive engagement with the interface which is less like a maze and more like an obvious route to do what you want to do.

We might have the chance of producing that mac hit with the beta. But we will need to be absolutely merciless about making that UX slicker than a Ferrari or whatever flicks your switch. Because if we are merciless to produce the best user experience possible, as deep into the code design as possible, to enable the wealth of social enrichment this app will enable.


No doubt about it. Problem is, we haven’t produced enough of an experience with people to justify it. We need to get more done, ensure UX is satisfyingly sufficient, an enough that is satisfyingly satiating.


And sadly there has not been enough critical mass of people who… perhaps know each other or work together. When we get this critical mass — or intense quality — we will be in for a ride. Not just in terms of great share pictures, or pleasant messages, or new gadgetry in the world, or interesting new developments socio-psychologically. But what about what we are doing with the world, bringing a quality of responsibility with one another that is not overshadowed and objectified into the roles and offices we hold. This is what we need — proper, serious engagement about matters which really move us, about global situation, environment, continued sociopolitical unrest.



At this stage, the BE and FE may be clumsy, but they give enough of an experience that a user experiences ecosquared pleasantly. There is a systemic experience. And it is not a person to machine interaction. Nor a person to another person through mediating piece of technology. People still think a computer is a window, like the TV was. It can operate like a TV now, and we can direct it to all number of things out there in the world that are tremendous, gadgets, and videos, and things to buy, and books to read, and whatever takes your fancy — the computer can allow us to find things. And we can talk to each other through this, like a phone, and we can keep track of what our friends are up to, and organise our socials better.

However, the real value of it remains untapped.


I appreciate your work — you do not know how much. In the future, money will indicate it — and it will be from people who are using a tool that you built.


[18/07/2015 03:07:33] David Pinto: Think about the previous word — “interface design” “experience of the interface”. The “interface” is basically the screen. It is how it looks, and how we move things around the screen. It allows to see into our bank account (amazing) or stay in contact with people from a few years ago (amazing) and for learning about loads of stuff, and see films, etc, etc.
[18/07/2015 03:07:36] David Pinto: No.
[18/07/2015 03:08:52] David Pinto: I think you will have to experience the front-end. And you will have the benefit of having coded it.
[18/07/2015 03:10:45] David Pinto: The relationship between experience, and how the code is structured have a relationship. I don’t think we can communicate it about it very well — you will be taking their experience as being more important than yours because of their position. I’d rather you were actively involved in the experience you want to have from using the app. We just have to experience it.
[18/07/2015 03:11:03] David Pinto: Problem is, you don’t really have any idea how you’d use the app — or even want to.



Nobody else does either. Which is why we need to try it. And once people try it, they will be influence how they are experiencing it. And the first really powerful people to use the app will be coders.


[18/07/2015 03:12:36] David Pinto: Nobody else does either. Which is why we need to try it. And once people try it, they will be influence how they are experiencing it. And the first really powerful people to use the app will be coders. Or could be.
[18/07/2015 03:12:43] David Pinto: Strange lot coders though.
[18/07/2015 03:13:40] David Pinto: But once they get it, and find how it operates, and base their use on a feedback loop that makes sense, socio-economically and potentially politically.
[18/07/2015 03:13:50] David Pinto: I don’t think many coders are aware of how political what they do is.
[18/07/2015 03:15:28] David Pinto: The romans built the roads and the aquaducts, the british built steam engines and industrialised great parts of the world. Tool builders. We are living through an age where the main thing we are building, is code.
[18/07/2015 03:16:02] David Pinto: Change how people code, and why they code, and we change the world.


You guys are creating the platform, the infrastructure, the buildings and institutions of the future. One bit at a time. The fucking builders of the future — the construction workers, the civil engineers — the virtual engineers. Changing/creating/making the future.


But for example, it is text stream. Although I can mark it with emoticons — there’s no way I can ‘activate’ these emoticons, I can use them to track my feelings, or get a revision of things I have noted. Like a summary. So the history of engagement is not just an endless block of text, but it is punctuated with emoticons and ‘intellicons’ which perhaps others might find useful. Less like blog, and more excerpts from work engagements, or love exchanges rather than deliberate ‘poetry’.

I’d like Skype to evolve. And I haven’t felt part of its evolution very much… it doesn’t change enough. Improvements, etc.

Anyway — you guys are coding the future.

[18/07/2015 03:26:11] David Pinto: Anyway — you guys are coding the future.
[18/07/2015 03:32:04] David Pinto: If I am right with ecosquared, and the design is slick enough, and scalable enough, a lot of people are going to be very happy and appreciative. And we give them the tool to enable that. And not just to show their appreciation of us because of what the tool enables — more importantly — their experience with other people improves because of the higher level of trust and the obvious positive cycles that generate good will and superb application to whatever we attend to. Appreciate whatever or whoever they want to appreciate, music, tango partner/teacher/student, cake baking, badminton-playing, golfer. And they can take care of their children and grandchildren securely.


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a million i’s

Not just eyeballs on a page, or the first three seconds of an advert. Not just the shallow response of an easily evoked emotion by a skillful illusion that is a film. When we can engage deeply enough with one another, together, such that there are a million people appreciating the same… rather complex or subtle thing… and make a decision together with eg £10. That’s a game I’d LOVE to play. £10 to play with 1,000,000 others — how to spend £10,000,000. By consensus. All of us. Over a few hours, maybe a weekend.

Well, if we got to that level socially — which seems realistic at the time this was written in 2015 — but because of our app, we managed to get to 1,000 of us deciding in an hour to spend £10,000. Yup, I’m up for that game. The tool to enable this can be bodged together from different services across the net — we used QAHDGDH and off-the-shelf crowdfunding app (should have got coders to maybe implement some new features), and google hangouts. For any future version (relative to time of writing) or what seemed to work (relative to those readers who have had this experience, where I am in their past and across an unknown social distance) — for any version to work, probably need a simple live ly.visual map like thing which shows current decisions held by people, values as well as moneyflow. And because of curiosity, you draw yourself into certain peoples ideas, and the state of agreement, and the formation of teams possibly, while others are simultaneously exploring how to improve the experience as it is happening, and those who are spreading a means of communication — like hand signals — help 10 people orchestrate their listening better. And you contribute, your appreciation, and perhaps you draw attention to people through your appreciation, like everyone else is, and why you are drawn into certain potential solutions for the movement of £10,000,000 this very evening — with the special theme of the evening is — we want to see a significant improvement in attitude in a school which has been experiencing low grades, or revitalising garage (like those shows where you upgrade your house, how about you upgrade your company — I’d watch that — that’s one up on Dragon’s Den!).

1,000 people in an hour? Ok, what about 100? Or 10? Or 2? There are different ways of engaging at different sizes of grouping. For 100 to engage — usually its most are watching or sitting, and there one or a small group doing something that they are appreciating. 100 dancing is unusual, in terms of ‘ballroom’ dancing and that is at least in pairs. 100 dancing at a club — are they dancing in pairs? Much? How much in small groups? Yes a few friends bunched together. And of course when a club takes off, then everyone is in it together. Different states of mind, different scales of mind.

I think 1000 people in an hour means we have to learn how to communicate in a way we can’t do just now. But if we learn, some of us are going to be leaving with £10,000. Yup, that’s a game I want to play. I think my ideas are pretty cool, and I got amazing results from kids. We did things in ridiculously short timeframes, and got inspired a LOT. If ecosquared provides the platform tool device that allows mapping of this social manifestation… the potential is rather…. consequential. Globally.



[18/07/2015 03:55:20] David Pinto: Cheeky buggers!
[18/07/2015 03:55:41] David Pinto: I can see all your hard work. I’m not sure you see mine.
[18/07/2015 03:55:52] David Pinto: Hopefully the experience of the app will justify it.
[18/07/2015 03:57:54] Maxi Dev: Just looking Asana we can tell al your effort on the app and the idea
[18/07/2015 03:58:30] David Pinto: Wait till we hear the social music.
[18/07/2015 03:58:33] David Pinto: That’s my work.
[18/07/2015 03:58:36] David Pinto: Did with kids.
[18/07/2015 03:58:55] David Pinto: Adults… they needed money I think for it to work. At least initially.
[18/07/2015 03:59:22] David Pinto: Once we are working because we really really want to, in fact — we pay to participate. Then we know it is working.
[18/07/2015 03:59:27] David Pinto: 🙂
[18/07/2015 03:59:37] David Pinto: You will be making enough money, that you will be giving it away.
[18/07/2015 03:59:43] David Pinto: Call it business investments.
[18/07/2015 03:59:52] David Pinto: Call it sharing to people you think deserve it.
[18/07/2015 03:59:59] David Pinto: Or people who can get stuff done that you think is valuable.
[18/07/2015 04:00:02] David Pinto: Whatever.
[18/07/2015 04:01:01] David Pinto: And more importantly whoever you appreciate.
[18/07/2015 04:03:15] David Pinto: That’s when our social song will have begun, properly.
[18/07/2015 04:03:33] David Pinto: Ok, I am off to bed. Tango was good tonight, that’s why I am quite happy.
[18/07/2015 04:03:39] David Pinto: Sleep well when it comes.

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